So I looked around, was impressed with the quality of some of their stocks and signed up. Once you download a few images you will be met with a message that says ads will be removed once you contributed 10 photos to the database. I had just turned a majority of my stock here to Unrestricted so I uploaded a few of the files in my gallery here, there. It was pretty successful, good acceptance ratio, even received an accolade in the form of an Editor's Choice front page showcase on one of my 3D rendered backgrounds. There's a 'Buy Coffee' donation button for every contributor profile which could be linked to a Paypal account, but I had no intention to monetize my unrestricted stock there, just like I am not here either.
A few days later I went back to upload some of my textures, around 15 at once, and had all rejected within a matter of minutes, with a mail asking if the stock was mine. I replied politely that it was, explained that I had this account, provided a link and told them this was the sole place I shared the same stock, if they found it somewhere else, it wasn't me, nor done of my accord. I've had my stock distributed without my permission before so it didn't seem all that far-fetched that they could've found it somewhere else on the internet. It was only 2 days ago I saw my Tears Brushes stolen and distributed on a Photoshop resources website, file and preview picture with my actual name on it included. Went back, reuploaded my textures and was told they don't meet their quality standards and was also notified my account had been blocked from submitting any more files as a result.
That didn't sit well with me. I am sharing free stock on a free website, some of my well-received stock here, including a DD texture, and my stock is not good enough for them, so yesterday I wanted to simply close the gallery and continue sharing my stock within the Deviantart community. I went into my control panel and had no option to erase ANY of the 25 files I had submitted and got approved. I asked on the forums what the proceedings were for someone to remove their gallery and was told there's the option to deactivate the account. Here's where it gets shady. I went to erase my profile information, subsequently deactivating my account, and I'm met with a message that says doing so I lose any photo I submitted to Public Domain, because they remain in the database whether I like it or not! Nowhere during the upload process does it say you lose any and all rights to your photos by submitting them, nor that you can't choose to erase them at any given time if you so chose!
And it doesn't end there. This is the remnant of the account I had pixabay.com/en/users/3209107-3… if you look in the top right corner you'll see the 'Coffee' button. If anyone were to click on it and make a donation because they like my stock currently on that page, it goes straight to them instead, it even says 'Pixabay' on the checkout to Paypal. They are currently monetizing off my stock and that's just wrong.
I've been a stock artist for about as long as I've been an artist. My 10th dA anniversary at FrozenStarRo is rounding up next month, I've had this stock account for over 7 years, and the 3 years before that I ran the collective stock account ro-stock with 2 of my photographer friends. I've always strived to provide the best stock I could, as others have in turn done before me with the stocks I used in my art. But never in these 10 years have I felt this hurt, humiliated and helpless all at the same time.
This was posted as a cautionary tale, whether you're an artist using Pixabay stock or a prospective contributor. I can't stop artists from using the stock there but perhaps this can raise some awareness regarding the origin of some of the stock you may be using. For all you know the original author could be someone like me, who was denied the option to erase it. For anyone contributing, your stock is worth more and you shouldn't have to cease all rights to that stock when you upload it.
It's late now. Sorry for the wall of text on this subject but I consider it an important matter that could affect a lot more people than just me and shouldn't be kept quiet. I'm sitting here at 3:49am because the situation is bad enough I can't sleep. It'll pass with time, and my stock remains here for you guys to use. I will add some new stock soon but I need to get a fresh perpective and let go of this first.
With my account now deactivated for several days, they have gone back and published 3 more of my previously rejected files, making that 28 files they are currently holding and monetizing. This is freaking unbelievable!
- Watching: Stranger Things
PixabayFor those of you that use Pixabay photos in your manipulations please be careful - I just found this on their website: https://pixabay.com/en/statue-stone-sculpture-jesus-2168804/
My original and copyrighted photograph is here:
It was also posted on another free stock image website, but I imagine that they copied it from Pixabay, thinking it was in the Public Domain. Thank you to very kind person that alerted me
It is really a shame that they won't allow you any control at the very least to remove it from their site. I believe you can remove your photos from WikiMedia if you want to.
Thank you for posting this information. I love to start hearing what other Pixabay contributors say to the response Pixabay has given you clearly in the comments.
He also has a few replies to concerns in the comments of this journal if you'd care to have a look, he insists the inability to remove images is put there to protect the people who come to Pixabay to download stock and have a means to prove where it originated from, should they ever need to. However my question on the rights of their contributors remains unanswered, and my opinion is they deserve to be protected more than those that come once, take stock and never look back.
I'm not the only one who feels slighted by their policies and more people are picking up on it, some speaking up, some not. Their forum is public and you can browse and read to your hearts content without needing to sign up. I still browse ocassionally and see contributors concerned with their stock getting taken off Pixabay and sold off on Getty or Dreamstime with no appeal because it's Public Domain, so anyone grabs and does whatever they like, including sell in its original form.
Here's someone having their work sold off on FineArtAmerica pixabay.com/ro/forum/chitchat-… And the first reply perfectly captions what Pixabay facilitates "when you sign up and upload to Pixabay you are agreeing with the terms of service. Which means someone can sell your art, without asking for your permission or giving you credit. [...] there is nothing you can do".
I've also seen occasional complaints from people coming to report on having their likeness portrayed in photos on there because Pixabay doesn't require a model release form for any individuals that may appear in photographs.
It's been a great learning experience for myself and I'm a lot more inquisitive in regards to both where I get my stock from and where I post it too. I'm at peace with it now and I'm actually in the process of uploading my stock that Pixabay retains to any and all public domain image databases so Pixabay can't take the credit on them exclusively at least, especially with my account there being just digits since deactivating it.
My stock is very important to me also and I enjoy haveing the choice of letting people use it free of charge here on DA, even for commercial purposes (as long as it is not Dark Art, my personal request). But, I always have the control over this account and my other pro stock account. But, my goodness, for them to TAKE your work.... my heart goes out to you. May peace come back to your heart as soon as possible.
PS... your stock is always wonderful!! Thank you
I'm Simon, one of the founders and developers at Pixabay.com. Let me help to clear this up.
frozenstocks has uploaded some of her images under Creative Commons CC0 on Pixabay. That means Andreea allows free usage worldwide without any conditions. You may use these images for derivative works and all Pixabay user may also use them for basically anything they like. The core idea of Pixabay is offering a legally safe source for free quality images. And what makes them legally safe is CC0.
And here's a very important fact about CC0 - and all other Creative Commons licenses: they are *irrevocable*! And of course they are! Because it wouldn't make any sense to first allow free usage - and then, later on, make up one's mind and revoke the granted permissions. And that's why we usually do not remove any published and downloaded images from Pixabay. If *you* were an image user, would you like to have your legal reference removed, so that the image author can sue you (illicitly) for infringing upon their copyright? Sure not.
So, before publishing any images *anywhere*, one should always make sure to know what one is actually doing! In the end, Andreea herself contributed some of her images to the *public domain*. And now she's unhappy with Pixabay, because a few of her images got rejected due to not fulfilling our quality guidelines.
dofaust: You don't seem to know much about image licensing and legal matters. Why do you think you can give advice. Basically everything you say is off.
lrafael98: What exactly are you talking about? What do you think is so bad?
advice/observations regarding the
abuse of intellectual property.
Luckily, aggrieved citizens can take
their cases to court, where laws
and due process will be applied.
And, plaintiffs can get representation/advocates.
If they can't or won't provide that, you can commence legal action.
Of course, if they are breaching the original agreement, you may also
commence legal action. Intellectual property lawyers love these situations.
I observe that their agreement does not discuss their intentional misuse
of your property. Be sure that you communicate formally the withdrawal of your property
from their domain/purview/site/pages....
The EU has severe punishments for intentional misuse, etc..
I notice also that pixabay is in deutschland. The strongest intellectual property
laws in the EU, possibly the world. This will please your lawyers. If you are in the
right, especially if the culprit has deep pockets,
most personal injury lawyers worldwide will be happy to take you on,
gratis, for a percentage of what they are likely to recover...
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Hans Braxmeier, Donaustraße 13, 89231 Neu-Ulm, Germany
Phone: +49 (0)731 / 800 1660, firstname.lastname@example.org
Hans Braxmeier, Founder, and CEO
Hans is the founder and CEO of Pixabay - currently living abroad in Switzerland. He has always been interested in new technologies, studied computer science in Ulm (Germany), and has launched several web projects. Hans likes sports, especially running, mountain-biking, and hiking. He is always on the lookout for new challenges.
-> As expalined in my other posts, with CC0, withdrawal is legally not an option. And even if we would remove such images from Pixabay, they would remain available under CC0 on any other site where they have been "redistributed" to.
or preferably, seriously consider alternate dispute resolution (ADR) - judges love
it when you have attempted this.
Selber habe ich auch einen ganz kleinen Bestand auf Pixabay und kann die Aufregung hier nicht so ganz nachvollziehen.
Es gibt dort ganz genaue Nutzungsbedingungen. Auch für das Hochladen von Bildern, die man sich vorher durchlesen kann/sollte.
pixabay.com/de/service/terms/#… -- pixabay.com/en/service/terms/#…
Lädt man bei Pixabay Bilder hoch, werden sie automatisch "gemeinfrei". So wie z. B. auch teilweise auf Wikipedia.
creativecommons.org/publicdoma… --- creativecommons.org/publicdoma…
Auf jeden Fall unterliegen sie dann der Creative Commons CCO. Ich verliere also das Recht auf das Bild.
Noch zum Löschen:
Auch bei mir wurden Bilder nicht angenommen und alle diese Bilder konnte ich dann sofort löschen, was ich auch getan habe.
Sie wurden zusammen aufgelistet und ich gefragt, was damit passieren soll.
Also keine Probleme.
Eine Profi-Kamera besitze ich nicht, biete hier auf DA aber doch eine Vielzahl von Stocks an, die fast "alle" unter CC laufen.
Warum? Weil mich tausend verschiedene Stocks-Roules einfach total nerven, wenn ich ein Bild erstellen möchte. Sorry.
Pixabay, because I saw some stock I like from photo manips here
on dA but then the credit says "Pixabay". After reading this, I won't
go near them.
This is unacceptable keeping your stock images after you deleted your
account AND they have the audacity to add your rejected images now that
you are no longer with them
Would morguefile free photos work the same way?
The place where it gets confusing is the subscription system that Morguefile seems to have nowadays. It looks optional but I'm not sure where that comes into play from a submitter's viewpoint, as the terms would seem to suggest they can't make any claims to payments or royalties, so what does subscription money go towards and why still eludes me. They tentatively call this extra service 'Quest', seems to be an on-demand stock deal where someone may request a specific stock and the submitter can choose to participate, maybe akin to a commission, but it doesn't stipulate anywhere whether the submitter gets paid for filling in that request or not.
It's a long read but worth checking for yourself, you may find something I missed morguefile.com/terms
But that morguefiles was a good site to use free photos from.
But I was there lots of stock photograph from people on dA. So I asked them about the rules to use their stock.
As far as Pixabay free photos, I'm very confused to find there a lot of photograph from my Photoshop creative magazine.
I pay the magazine 9 euros a month. But most of their photos are on pixabay for free.
Thank you very much for all the information.
Have a nice day